Monday, October 31, 2005
I like my class
About the class
Reflect this course
What can I say!
The course 106 English
Comment for 106 class
I'm sorry that I do not have many suggestions or comments for this class, but I really learn new stuffs in this class. Thank you.
Sunday, October 30, 2005
ABOUT 106 G
In addition, the class content is very important since i have a little idea about plagiarism and how to avoid it. Learning real stories and watching movies are very fun. Learning and writing different types of summaries are also beneficial. Blog himmm i am not sure about that. Sometimes it is good to be forced ... I must accept that my writing is improved a lot by being aware of connecting and reporting words. In the end, I hope I will have a big process.
Reaction for Blog #6
More important, I can’t make to discuss our class myself. Because I am supported real-time captioning from OSD, it is too slow to catch teacher and classmates’ speaking.
Sometimes, I am boring during class.
I would like to suggest a few things better in the remaining our class.
I want to see my classmates’ face during class. Because I can’t hear their voice, I should be watch computer screen. So I didn’t know who is speaking during class.
When I saw them a moment, the computer with screen already go to next page. So, I thought that if my classmate sits round the desk, it will be more help to me. I think that it makes it easy to know who is speaking. The other thing, I want to write important points on board such as homework and class content of the day as much as possible. Anyway, my class is very absorbing. Thank you. I’ll see guy on Monday.
This class is ...
About this class.
I learned a lot about what is plagiarism in this course. I thought I knew about plagiarism before I took this course but it wasn’t. Plagiarism is more comprehensive and complicated. It’s not simply copying and pasting from the internet.
Other thing I really like in this class is tutorial with really nice teachers. Teacher points out my mistakes and give some advises what to fix, add or delete. So I would know what I did wrong and where I did make mistakes.
Overall I love to take this class for my English. There’s lots of things to learn in this course.
Blog 6-Edu T&L 106 G
Tutorial times are good for me to see my mistakes about writing. To correct my mistakes in writing English, it is necessary to seen its. In addition to the course, a particularly tutorial activity helps me to do this. You have us make some homework and blog. Blog and homework are forcing us to make some activities about to read, to understand, and to write in English. This is very good, the more we make homework and blog, the more we learn from these activities. May be, my class friends will angry to me, because they are taking some other courses and they have to work for this courses, too. But, this is true, I think so. My friends have to write their thesis and articles. These abilities are necessary to write them.
Learning environment in the class is very suitable. In the course, on the one hand we are improving our writing ability, and on the other hand we are learning about academic ethic. You are teaching good subjects for us. In addition to present class activity, it would be give more time focus on made general mistakes by students. Some personal mistakes would discuss in the tutorial times. Anyway, this is making now.
You are giving to us after the class time to make meet possible to you about the course. Although I hardly ever used before this possibility, this is a big chance for students. And we can write to you e-mail. That is fine, too.
Saturday, October 29, 2005
in my opinion about journal 6
i never heard this word before and i just know the real definition of this word when i study with you. I think it's really important and it's good to know. With this class , it really benefit to me especailly writing , i know my writing is wo weak but i think after i took this class, i think it would be better and improved. Sometime, i feel bored with plagiarism's idea and lesson but i think it must be very important that's why you must teach us several weeks.
There are something i don't like in this class is timing, i think it's too short for us to study.
I feel when everyone get ready and have some chats ( including you taling with us..which is great)we lost 10 minute and we have 38 minutes left. what could we do woth this time? that's sad. And i think when someone want to talk or share opinion...sometime we don't have much time to do that ( maybe i asks too much ...so sorry)
About size of class...i really enjoy with the number of people in my class...small and warmth feeling... i feel this is on;y class that helps me improve speaking too.
Oh yes, one more thing...i learn sign language from Chong min which is really enjoy and make me feel goood....d Thanks Chong min
comment on 106G
However, I feel that class schedule is not so impressing. We have class everyday but 48 minutes each. I think 48 minutes is too short, sometimes I see that the students in class have just started sharing their ideas but the time has ended. I think it would be better if we have class not everyday but spend a little more time on one day. Furthermore, I think that in some week, it’s hard to write respond to friends’ blog because the topic to discuss has the same details to talk, so it’s like some repetition of our own work.
Friday, October 28, 2005
It's a hard choice to make.....
This weekend we would like you to take some time and reflect on the midterm and the course (106 or 106G) and give us some feedback.
- What's working for you in the course?
- What's not working for you?
Reflect more on the course content, activities, etc. rather than us, the instructors. Don't worry! You'll have your opportunity to evaluate us at the end of the quarter. Right now help us to know how we can help you better in the remaining weeks of the quarter.
As always, have a great weekend,
Cate and Ivan
I defend Marita.
Thursday, October 27, 2005
I go with Marita~!!
Marita’s plagiarism is one of sample cases that every freshman students can make due to lack of knowledge. She did not be well taught about way to avoid plagiarism in high school. In universities, plagiarism is academic misconduct that should be seriously treated. However, a school is the place of learning, so teaching what is plagiarism is also what university should do before kicking students out of school. Additionally, from early age, Marita has been encouraged to not mention her opinion unless it is certainly good. All reasons are good enough to give her second chance, I believe.
I choose Marita
Tuesday, October 25, 2005
I would choose Jamal.
Sunday, October 23, 2005
The rich also needs chance.
Comparing Haley’s, Marita’s and Jamal’s backgrounds and situations, Haley looked most devious and unforgivable. However, I think that as a student Haley also has the right to make some mistakes and the lesson she took was too harsh. I would like to defend in three contexts.
First, Haley was 16, in other words, it was her first year in high school. What did she learn during this year? High school is the first step of academic field, comparing with the fundamental studies in elementary and junior high school. I believe that even in the finest private school, students in 16-year-old are still unwell-educated in academic writing. They might know something, but not everything.
Second, comparing with other two situations, I don’t think rich is anything wrong that makes Haley deserved the punishment. Although barren education resources made us sympathize Jamal’s and Marita’s situations, Haley who had better resources was also ignorant. Haley plagiarized in two different ways. She changed her technique, but still thought she was taking risk. That’s because she did not know how to do it right. If she knew she could properly use other’s idea to support her own work by correct quotation without worried about plagiarism. How could she make the mistake twice? Therefore, I think she was not well educated by her first punishment and the second mistake was not all Haley’s fault.
Third, Haley should take responsibility to her misconduct, but not in this severe way. To a child from a perfect family, expulsion looks like an ink spot on white paper. It’s obvious in a snowy background. Generally speaking, Haley was not a bad student, only a lazy student. Did she need a lesson like that? I don’t think so.
I am glad that Jamal and Marita were acquitted from plagiarism. I think Haley deserved another chance too.
I would choose Jamal
Of course, the first sentence wasn’t written by Jamal. But he didn’t know whether it was published in the past. Also, he wasn’t intentionally used. I think that it wasn’t plagiarized and was just educated under his situation. If Forrest don’t discover his talent, perhaps Jamal must be living as ordinary people, with hidden his ability. He already knew what black means in his life. It was just the only opportunity to being able to grow up more broaden and deepen sprite for him. I think that it is important that background is considered when anything happened but must not to jump to the conclusion only background.
To Defend Jamal
I think, anybody don’t want defend Halley. To defend Halley is harder than Jamal and Marita. If defended person is innocent, this situation may make easy work of defendant person. I prefer defended the Jamal, if I have to defend one of them. Because he is innocent about plagiarism, but the other persons, Marita and Halley, made plagiarism. Haley made it purposely, but Marita made it unintentionally. To defend innocent person may be more easy than the others situations. Jamal come across misunderstand. He don’t explain himself suitably to his literature teacher and school authorities. He misunderstands. If his teacher understood him truly, Jamal would be more creative student about literature. The literature teacher had to discovered Jamal's literature ability and contributed to improve it, but he made opposite of this. Despite Jamal had a good writing ability, he might be hate from literature and writing. Furthermore, accusation of plagiarism was effected his social life and basketball play. Johanson, Jamal’s informal teacher, helped to him. If there weren’t anybody help to him like Johanson, what would be? Therefore, in my opinion, to defended Jamal is more easy than the other two situations.
Marita is the one I chose
Saturday, October 22, 2005
Haley is the one that I defend. (surprise?)
Comparing with two other cases which the punishments were not too hard, Marita had to write new assignment, while Jamal couldn’t enter the writing competition and had to write the apologized letter. However, I would not defend that Haley was not guilty but my intention is I want us to look at this situation as it was a problem that needed to be concerned by everyone. What actually made Haley plagiarized twice? How about the school responsibility in this case?
On her first mistake, Haley was on probation but did anyone told her what is the definition of plagiarism? And what would be the punishment, if she kept doing that? If the school taught her, she would not do it again. The expulsion was going to be really bad experience and also bad record in Haley’s life. Moreover, doubting on school’s decision by expelling the students without teaching them, the school would lose their reputation from angry parents. If the school gave Haley a chance and taught her, not only Haley would continue her student’s life happily but also the school would be admired by the other and would have another soft way to deal with plagiarism.
Friday, October 21, 2005
I will defend for Marita
I think Marita is the most innocent one if compare with everyone here.
Marita is plagiarizes without knowing what is exactly of plagiarism,she cames from the school that poor of education resources. She does not know how to refer someone else's idea to her work and she thinks it enough if she refers her resources in bibliography in her papers,she does not know it was wrong idea. I believe if she knows it was wrong, she will not did it.She is industrious and diligent student that's why university as UCLA university accepted her and i belives education is the only thing that make her life be better than she was,so she will not do anything that make her education get in risks.
Compare to Haley and Jamal, they already know what is meaning of plagiarism and they know what is the outcome if they sent plagiarized work. Haley take a risks because she afraid to get fail in her class and Jamal sent it because he does not know this work was published many years ago and he wants teacher,Robert Crawford,knows that he can write something good.Both of them did it with intentionally.So, I think both of them should get punishment from their action eventhough Jamal did it because he wants to prove his ability to biased teacher.
But he proves in appropiated way.Fortunately, he has someone as William Forrester defends for him unike Haley Lodge,she gots nobody.
Marita Case (last week)
Marita plagiarizes with misundestanding idea about what is plagiarism and does not know how to refer someone else's idea to her assignment. I thinks if she knows what is she doing was wrong and will make her in trouble, i believe she will not did that. Moreover,i think because she cames from not wealthy family and poor resources school, education is the only way to make money for her or gets a good job in the future,that's why she tries so hard to do well in every assignments she gots and make her plagiarizes with unintention mind.
In these two cases,Marita is different from Haley in everythiing.
Haley 's family is wealthy and she cames from good school in good environment.Haley is plagirizes with intention mind because she afraid of failing in her class. Haley plagiarizes twice and thinks she will never gets expell from school, i believe she think plagisrism is not a serious problem.But she thinks wrong,she was expelled.I believe Haley will not plagiarizes if she did her report with her discipline. About punishment, i believe Marita should gets second chance to do her assignment and she should have chnace to continues her study at UCLA.But in Haley, her punishment was too harch but i think she deserved it because if she doesn't gets this punishment, she will continued think that plagiarism is not serious problem and maybe she will thinks that she always have another chance to get through of this problem.
Thursday, October 20, 2005
We have learned about the three plagiarism cases in this class. If you were asked to defend one of the students, Haley, Marita, or Jamal, who would you choose to defend? Give reasons why you would want to defend that person.
Also, please respond to someone's blog.
Have a great weekend!
Ivan and Cate
Haley vs. Marita
For Marita’s case, since she is a freshman, I guess punishment won’t be too harsh probably just get a failing grade for her assignment and yet this is her first time to get accused of plagiarism. Unlike Haley situation, in Marita situation, she does cite the sources that she is using, but she does not cite them properly. Haley does not cite the sources that she is using. She just paraphrases it and mixes with her own words.
After I think about it again, I think that both of them don’t know how to cite properly. In Haley’s case, she is caught once for plagiarism and about 20 percent of her assignment is cut and paste. And I guess after that event she learns that copy and paste is plagiarism, but she does not know that paraphrase is also plagiarism if she does not cite it properly that’s why she paraphrases it and not copy and paste for the second time. I guess she thinks that paraphrase is alright since she uses or mixes with her own words, and it’s not a plagiarism.
Wednesday, October 19, 2005
I think she is not guilty
the big differance between Haley and Marita is that Haley committed same crime more than once. Marita was her first time to get caught with plagiarism.
So I strongly agree with Haley’s case that she got kicked out from high school. Because she got caught before. When she plagiarizing her second paper, she know she’s doing wrong thing. Just thought when it goes wrong, she’s not going to get harsh punishment. Maybe just same as last time or little bit worse.
But in Marita’s case is little bit different. She needs some sort of education about plagiarism and how to write paper properly when she site sources from other’s work.
If she occur same mistake as Haley did. She should treat same as Haley
What a lucky girl I am.
About Hayley and Marita, they made same academic misconduct, and had different result for those. Of course, there was big difference between them. Unlike Hayley, Marita made a mistake in total-unconsciousness, and it was Marita’s first time. However, I feel Marita was luckier than Hayley. Marita met Rose who understood what made her to do so and know what she should be corrected.
Well, I’ve got to disappoint the intention of this assignment’s topic now. Honestly, the strongest thought in my mind is how lucky girl I am. I wrote so many others’s ideas on my assignment without quotation marks or footnotes. Just like Marita, I thought that I avoided plagiarism by putting reference list on the end of my paper. Nobody taught me all details of the rule before I attend a school in the U.S. Also, nobody objected about it in my country. If I transferred to poor Hayley’s school in my early age, I would be an expelled girl from a high school in a foreign country and joined her mom’s crusade. Who knows?
My answer to Marita's case
My opinion about Marita's punishment
Disagreeing on the school's side for each, Marita and Haley.
Tuesday, October 18, 2005
Monday, October 17, 2005
Marita and Haley
Sunday, October 16, 2005
influence of background
I did not mean that there is no punishment for that. I can say that as a student I did not take any training about plagiarism in Turkey. Because of that reason, students never think that it is wrong or in other words, they never think that copying assignments is stealing someone ideas. I believe that it is the main problem. I do not have any resources to support my ideas since these are my experiences. In my opinion, one reason may be the lack of sources of the teachers. If they take it seriously students will take it too. In Turkey, many professors have more than 100 students and also they do not have many TAs to help them about the course. Therefore, they can not find out the students who plagiarize. Huseyin looked at the subject from the perspectives of teachers and I looked at from the perspectives of students. The regulations may be different for students and teachers. I do not have sufficient information about that.
Comparing with Marita, Haley lived in a wealth family, which might provide her a better educational surrounding. However, she still confused with the definition of plagiarism. Is this telling us that even in western society, which highly values original ideas, do not well educate their youth how to avoid being accused of plagiarism? To me, I think my ignorance about plagiarism is caused of the different culture. However, these two examples are Americans who grew up and were educated to the level of high school and college in the U.S. They should know well about their culture, but they are still confused. Even the GTA, I think he/she was also dubious about accusing Marita’s assignment of plagiarism; therefore, he/she turned the paper over to the director of Freshman English. These examples raise questions to me. When should students learn academic writing? When should they be examined plagiarism?
Another point interests me is what Haley and Marita did. At the first time, Haley copied and pasted the original text; at the second time, she paraphrased the sentences and mixed with her own ideas. However, she did not cite any. We can know that Haley had no idea about academic writing. She even did not know citation is needed. In Marita’s situation, she did know something about academic writing. She knew that it’s necessary to cite reference, but she did not have the technique. These indicate that she did learn how to write in academic way, but she was not well trained. Who should take the responsibility? Did her high school teacher know how to write academic articles? Why she did not be accused of plagiarism when she was in high school?
Halley and Marita
According to me, Marita came across a punishment that she hadn’t deserve. She didn’t know in this subject what was true or what was wrong. Marita needed to education in this subject, needn’t punishment. Halley deserved a punishment, but given expulsion punishment was very big. To expell from school wasn’t a suitable solution. To failed in this class was a punishment. This punishment shouldn’t have given to Halley such a situation. Additionaly, Halley needed to education in this subject, didn’t expell.
About Blog 3:
I haven’t participate any plagiarist event. But, two students in my class about educational plans and evaluation cheated each other works. All students in this class had to make some original plans. When I noticed that two works same, I called this work’s owns. Although they had a good points, this students failed directly in this course due to copied in their working. They had to take this class again.
To help each other is important in Turkish culture. But, some students can’t adequately distinguish between differences cheating and helping one other’s. Both in high school and in universities, cheating is prohibited by some regulations. Separetely, there is a law to protection thought and art works.
Some web adresses in English are below connected with on the evident which in my third blog talked about a situation.
Marita's case: plagiarism or not!
The first primary point was their intention; Unlike Haley who knew herself that she was doing wrong, Marita didn’t know that what she had done lead to plagiarism; she just wanted the excellent work. Second was the schools’ action toward plagiarism; Marita had a chance to defend herself. As Marita’s school investigated the situation by looking at her work and talking with her before making any judgment, but Haley was expelled from the school. However, that was Haley’s second mistake; the article about Haley didn’t provide more information on her first mistake. Third, the causes which leaded to plagiarism were different. In Haley’s case, she was tempting by factors surrounding her such as her friends and some websites; while, Marita made this mistake by the difficulty of the assignment and by her own experience.
Personally, I’m agree with the school’s reaction toward Marita’s case because the school gave her a chance to say what was happening and maybe gave her one more chance on her assignment. Moreover, Marita made this mistake by innocence; I think she deserved this chance. On the contrary, I’m disagree with the graduate student who taught her because he or she gave the students too hard assignment and brought this situation to be big matter by tuning Marita’s paper over to the director of Freshman English. On the other hand, as being a teacher trainee before, I understand that this situation was difficult to the GTA too; sometimes we don’t know what to do, we sometime don’t know that the assignment is too hard or not, and of course we don’t know how to deal with the situation such as plagiarism. But if I were that GTA, I wouldn’t tell this situation to the other; I would talk with Marita that her paper could be plagiarism because of what. I would also teach her how to write academic paper. Although Marita didn’t get any punishment, her record would show that she was being accused of plagiarizing once. To me, I don’t like to call Marita’s action as her first mistake but I’d prefer to call “her misunderstanding.”
Saturday, October 15, 2005
Here is the blog topic for this weekend. (Sorry about the delay in getting it posted.)
1. What is your response to Marita's situation, particularly in comparison with Haley's situation?
2. Respond to someone else's blog.
Hope you are enjoying the great weather this weekend,
Cate and Ivan
P.S. Don't forget that both classes will be meeting together in Ivan's classroom to watch the movie Finding Forrester on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday next week. See you there and then.
Thursday, October 13, 2005
What is Plagiarism?
After I came to Columbus, and took classes here, I just knew what plagiarism was because all the instructors stated it so strictly and said it repeatedly on how you should cite it, in what methods etc., especially the classes that required for writing papers. But, you even can find the plagiarism definition and explanation on every of the syllabus that the instructor passed out in class.
I, myself, have never experienced in those kinds of situations in which I got accused of plagiarism for my papers. However, I have a friend that I know who got accused of plagiarism. She is an international student from Iran. This happened when she was taking second writing at CSCC. Only one sentence in her paper that she was accused plagiarism, and she received a failing grade for her first writing assignment. She said to me that the sentence, which was thought as plagiarism, was a sentence that she found in her first language form, and she translated it herself and used it in her paper. However, her teacher claimed that he read the sentence somewhere else and it was his favorite that why he remembered, so he thought that it was not her own idea, and since she did not cite it, she was accused plagiarism. I think sometime plagiarism is so complicated and confusing. But anyway, she passed that class, though (phew).
Wednesday, October 12, 2005
Didn't see anyone so far.
The sad thing is it is really hard to get caught in my country.
Not all of people intend plagiarism. I think many cases of plagiarism is not intended. Probably they don't understand concept of plagiarism. In that case, They just need to be educated with what's concept of plagiarism. how not to occur, those things.
In my opinion, people who got caught with plagiarism more than two times should get harsh punishment. So they won’t do same thing again in their life.
The valuable experience of my friend
Tuesday, October 11, 2005
plagiarism gives disadvantage
After a few days, his professor said to him during the class that your assignment couldn’t recognize because of plagiarism. Professor gave him F at this class, and couldn’t attend this class. He did much effort in order to receive pardon from professor. In spite of visiting professor everyday, the professor seemed reluctant to meet him. He told me when we had a lunch that he was penitent for his acting. We learn that plagiarism gives disadvantage, so we don’t have to plagiarize even though we don’t have time.
Comments about the experience of getting caught of plagiarism.
By Paul Chung.
Monday, October 10, 2005
Always looking out plagiarism
One of my best friends who studies in San Diaego told me that he was caught of plagiarism. At that time he didn’t have enough time to do homework because of his part time job. He decided to cite friend’s paper which wrote in a year ago. He paraphrased some of the paragraphs and got his idea about the subject. He just thought as Haley, the character in the article, that It had better to cite the assignment than later paper. But it didn’t take long time, he realized that he did wrong thing. The teacher called him to ensure his fault. By the way fortunately he just got F at that assignment without no more punishments. After final exam he couldn’t get the high grade, even though he had most of parts A+, because of the plagiarism. He told me that he felt really regretful at that time. After that experience, he has never tried plagiarism again.
Before I took this class, I just thought plagiarism easily like most of the new students. But the teacher has emphasized about the harsh effects of plagiarism in every class, it is really severe things. Now I am absolutely aware of the plagiarism. I will always be careful about plagiarism.
It was unclear concept to us...
Sunday, October 09, 2005
However, this loose attitude to plagiarism may lead information miss transferred. (I start to worry that is there anyone documented this idea before. :P) When people do not take serious about what they said, just using something they heard and transferring to others, they might pass the error information. If they do read the original document, the mistakes will be less.
Plagiarism oneself is also a new issue to me. If the meaning of plagiarism is to show respect to original author, why can’t we use our own work? When this happened in class, I might think that the instructor want us to think more and study more. Thus, self-plagiarism becomes an education issue. In academic field, citing one’s own contribution is also important. I think this might show the time of the idea, because when we see a journal paper, we can know the background of the study. For example, we can know what influence the thinking of the author. If the idea is not cited, we may confuse that the idea is a recent one or a passed one. This is the most possible reason I can explain why we should cite ourselves.
perspectives of turkish students
My experience in plagiarism by Tong
As due date passed, the teacher told us that he started to review some works and found that many papers were not the original work. It was copied and pasted from somewhere else. Even though, he hadn’t checked all the reports yet, he wanted the students who know themselves that their paper wasn’t their own to take it back. But to those who were sure that they didn’t steal somebody’s work, he suggested leaving the reports with him and then he would read it and scored it. Then I found out that most of the students in the class took their work back, there were only two papers left on the desk. Certainly, one is mine. However, most of my friends who made this mistake were given another chance; they had to take a special writing test which the teacher set up on Saturday. At that time, I was very proud of my paper; although, it was not so good, I did it by myself.
After my friends took a test on Saturday, I asked them about the test, they told me that the test was very easy. There were just only 3 paragraphs for them to write; all that they had to do was showing how to cite someone’s work by paraphrasing the given paragraphs and citing it source. Then, I thought that maybe the teacher wanted to teach them that they must cite the original owner when they want to use that idea. I was happy with them that they all did well on the test.
Now it’s my turn to discuss with the teacher about my paper, as he would comment my work and grade it. Unfortunately, my work turned out to be not so good. Actually, I would like to say that it was bad!
Finally, the grade came out; I got a B+ on that class. But my friends who had to take a correction test have got an “A”. Is it because they were doing very well on that test? I was stun. I knew that my report was bad; however, I have done it by myself. But my classmate, they sent the other’s work, the teacher knew that. Is it just because they were doing great on their correction test, and because my paper was bad? I just felt that isn’t it easier to get an “A” by just copying someone else’s work and taking the special test which was very easy instead of being honest and spending times to write my own report? Well, B+ wasn’t a bad grade for me. But...do you think it was fair enough?
However, I only read articles about Internet plagiarism in the Korea newspaper. According to the Korea Times, it is easier that many college students access Internet plagiarism for their assignments. So, an editor of the Korea Times says that many universities has developed or upgraded a program that can tell whether reports are pirated or not.
If professor get to know students have plagiarized their report, they don’t get to grade about report. But it doesn’t mean that students fail to complete their level. In Korea, there are severe competitions among college students. If they don’t get to grade a good grade through their university life, they can’t attend good company. Because student’ grades are one of the most important company’s requirements which they want to go. Students are always afraid of being what they get a bad grade from their professors.
Alternative ways, also, some of professors require paper with pencil instead typing with computer for the purpose of preventing to use websites.
In my opinion, I think that plagiarism is unfair. Although it may easy and simple plagiarizing for their reports, I think that it is only a waste time. Plagiarism may stop their spirit growth and may interrupt to be a rich experience and intelligence in the University.
A PLAGIARIST FRIEND! NO
The other event was in the other university, the oldest university in Turkey, Istanbul University. Plagiarist person was a medicine professor, at the same time he was a president of the oldest university in Turkey. The professor was made plagiarism in his book that wrote ten years ago. His plagiarism was proven by the Organization of Istanbul Physician. The professor was expelled his profession during two months. He was a professor and a president of a respected university. This was a big scandal, created very sensation at the public opinion and, discussed for days at the press and at the public opinion. Given punishment was found very few. The punishment for Turkish medicine professor isn’t dissuasive. Turkish public opinion wasn’t found sufficient the punishment.
Preparing this homework, I found another plagiarist event in Turkey. Two professors made plagiarism from another professor’s work. Professor was sued the other professors with a plagiarism accusation from her a book. She won the suit. A fine 50 billion YTL (37 billion $) given to two professors.
In my opinion, punishment for plagiarism in the academic environment must be heavy. But, first of all, to improve true behaviors, students and academicians must train in this subject. The aim isn’t to give a punishment, but to educate. Therefore, education is important.
Edaucation Or Punishment!
I almost got in trouble when it came to libratory reports. I took chem. 121 before and already I had the laboratory manual, since I dropped the course first time and I had the first and second lab. reports down. In first day of lab I was going to use my old manual and the teaching assistant saw me and she came to me and say that I can't use that. She got pretty upset and I explained to here I didn't know I couldn't use my old manual and I had to purchase new one.
That was the only time I got close to do some sort of plagiarism and with the lack of information in my behalf , almost I got in trouble. That experience show me how easy to become guilty of plagiarism and how to avoid to get in the situation like that.
106G homework..k writing
As we know, how can we know who copy whose design work? because it 's untouchable and all design styles in the world are looks the same or if it's different, it's not that much enough to distinguish which design is belong to who. All i know is someone steal someone's idea or use someone's work and present as it one's own work.
From my experience, my friend used to used somebody works or portfolio to find a job or present to customer.Actually, it's not a bad thing because they did it because they don't have time to do their portfolio and they want this job. I know it's wrong to customer but these people 's works are really great ...they have only one problem which is they are lazy to do their portfolio.
So after they get their job...the outcome of work is really great because these people know what to do and know how can did the great job and finish it.
This story is strange but it's true...So maybe this blog will give you about good will plagiarism.
Saturday, October 08, 2005
Blog 3 for 106/106G Students
Please respond to the following questions:
1. Have you, a friend, someone you know ever been accused of plagiarism? If so, what were the circumstances surrounding this accusation? What was the "punishment"? What lesson did you learn from this experience?
2. Write a response (comment) to someone's plagiarism experience.
Have a great weekend!
Ivan and Cate
Tuesday, October 04, 2005
I have stayed in ohio because of attending American language program class.
It was very hot in the summer, so to attend class was more harder.
But summer classeswere the most imprtant to enroll in OSU. After my class
finished, I was a little busy.I attended a orientation, made a new I-20,
and took a placement test. Moreover, when Iwanted to play something,
most people didn't stay because they went to the Korea insummer vacation.
So I just played a tennis with tennis club's people. Somrtimes, we went to
the cincinnati in oder to see a playing tennis. I thought that playing tennis
was one ofinteresting thing. My summer vacation was more boring
than another people
Sunday, October 02, 2005
discussion about haley's punishment and plagiarism
The Hawken High School Committee expelled Haley Lodge since she plagiarized in one of her papers. In my opinion, expulsion is a very serious punishment for a high school student. This punishment changed Haley’s future completely. For instance, she had to go to a public school after the punishment and generally private schools give a higher quality education than public schools. I believe that high school students may not be informed sufficiently about plagiarism hence they may not avoid plagiarism. Expulsion is an acceptable or an appropriate decision for especially college and graduate students. There are many seminars in universities about plagiarism. These seminars give not only information about plagiarism but also directions how to prevent from plagiarism. They are very helpful especially for the students coming from other countries. Different cultures have different point of views about plagiarism hence international students may not know about the regulations. I think that, specifically graduate students must be punished seriously. In academic life everybody should show respect to other people’s work. If somebody uses another people’s work they have to cite it, otherwise they should be punished very seriously. I am sure that after a severe punishment they will not repeat it. For a high school student, the most appropriate punishment should be a warning and a failing grade for the homework if it is the first time. If the student keep on plagiarism, he or she can be expelled from the school temporarily and he or she can be failed the course. If the student plagiarizes one more time, the student should be expelled permanently.
In conclusion, in order to prevent plagiarism both teachers and parents should inform the students. The students should be aware of what they are doing and how it will affect their life. To be honest in academic life never plagiarize.
Story about plagiarism
However, in my opinion, I strongly disagree that Haley got expelled from her high school because of using internet plagiarism on her paper and for her, it is too harsh punishment. She is only 16 years and high school student. She didn’t have another opportunity to correct her behavior.
I generally think that punishment itself isn’t able to extinct bad or unfair behavior including plagiarism. In addition to, students will seek more high tech like shady methods about plagiarism. In other words, if when they are punished, they won’t do it again. But it can temporarily reduce cheating act on their paper, I think that students would more careful their action about plagiary and they will still take other intelligent ways. Thus, punishment won’t be a basic solution to these matters. I believe that teachers have to take alternative education ways to remove students’ unfair action. For example, teacher would teach why plagiary is unfair behavior and would note the fact that plagiarism other people’s idea is the same stealing a thing. Therefore, I am strongly convinced that only other alternative ways instead taking punishment will be able to extinct cheating on their paper.
Expell looks severe but it needs for culprit.
For Haley, this is not her first time to plagiarized and she already know it was wrong if she did it again, she decide to plagiarized because she afraid that she will failed in her history papers and her class if she sent her report late. This situation will not happen if she has her dicipline in herself about her reponsibility and if she knows the result of what she did.
I believe that plagiarism is some type of crime, eventhough it look like " not a big deal" in teenagers or someone.For me, plagiarism is stealing someone's idea. Haley stealing someone's idea and present it like her own idea,eventhough she put her own idea too but around one in third of her report is not belongs to her idea.
Somebody as her mother, Joanne Lodge , thought expell is unfair to Haley and using www.turnitin.com proves haley's reports is not appropiated.Yes,if you look with mercy eyes to Haley and if you believe in giving the chances to culprits is the best way to do for every culprit.
But if we think in a different way, what about the owner of uncle Tom's cabin report that Haley copy his or her idea,Is should be fair to them?.And if someday when Haley grows up to be some scientist and she did it again, what is going to happen with science society?.
What about today, what were you thinking if you know that Einstien plagiarize his idea from someone and we admired the wrong person for maybe 40-50years ?
Actually, i believe if Haley did this as a third time and she got expell, everyone will agree with her punishment. But this is her second time ,she should deserves her chance or light severe?
I think the important thing is not what type of punishment that she should got but i think the most important thing is " Is she really knows or awares or understands how severe of plagiarism? and Is she really think it is wrong to do that?" I wonders why she weight it in risky way and thought that she will not get caught because in her profile she was on probation because of this guilt?
In my opinion, she think plagiarism is not a big problem and not serious. So, if we give her another chance such as give her more probation or more special class to her about plagiarism or at least fail her class , i think she will do it in the future because in her opinion , it's not "the big deal" for her.
But if she got expell or the school make her repeat her academic year, it might be make her exactly know or completely understand about how serious of plagiarism.
One more thing, I only heard that people should recieve the second chances, I never heard that people should recieve the third chance. Anyway, i think punishment is not the matter but realizing is something that really important than that.
Expulsion in unnecessary
In this article, the author provides several examples of punishments of plagiarism in different schools. Haley was suspended for a day at her first caught by plagiarism, and the second time she was expelled. In Piper, Kansas, some high school students were charged Internet plagiarism and failed the class. In University of Virginia, they expelled some students who were alleged of cheating on a term paper. These cases indicated that there are different ways to deal with the plagiarism misconduct. Expulsion is not the only method to stretch the improper behavior.
Punishments are not only a deterrent but also an educational device in schools, which carry a great responsibility called “Education”. What can expulsion taught us? Plagiarism is wrong! If you steal other’s work, you’ll get serious trouble! What else?
In my feeling, expulsion from school is a rejection, just like a mother turn her face away from her children. It provides an image that I am disappointed and I do not want to accept you any more. I think this is too harsh to a teenager. Furthermore, we cannot promise a fine education surrounding after expulsion. Some public schools have even more serious problems than plagiarism, who can guarantee these problems will not influence the student like Haley? The only problem of Haley is her academic misconduct, but she may meet some bad friends in the public school. It causes a serious problem in Taiwan, the students who were expelled from school will be accepted by the underground. Then they quit schools to do dirty things. If they have more chance, they can be better.
In Haley’s case, she wants to get a better grade rather than F. The information behind is she does not know how to manager her time and her family will not accept her failure. The attitude of her family can be easily found in the article that Haley has a perfect mother. Therefore, in Haley’s case, I think the proper punishment is let her take the responsibility of her loose time management and fail the class. The teacher also needs to contact Haley’s mother to talk about her girl’s situation. Additionally, Haley has to write an assay about plagiarism, which pushes her to understand what plagiarism is and how others think of plagiarism. Then they should discuss in class. I think the embarrassment of discussing this problem in class is harsh enough for a teenage girl. Expulsion is unnecessary.
My opinion toward Haley's case
What I’d like to discuss is about the penalty that she was given. As I can’t find more circumstance in this case that Hawken officials claimed that they used it as the factors of the judgment so I don’t know what effect this decision; however, I believe that there must be some better way than this punishment.
The space between her first guilt and the second was only four months; she was still on probation at that time. Why did she do it again? Did this probation teach her something? I don’t think so. The probation showed that she was guilty because she cut someone else’s work and pasted it on her own but the probation didn’t make her understand what the plagiarism is; it didn’t teach her how to cite someone work without being a thief. Maybe she didn’t even understand what the probation is; if there’s someone tell her what she might get when she do it again, I believe that Haley would not dare to do it. At that time, she might think that if she was caught, she maybe get some more probation or other punishment but not the expulsion.
To me, I think that the better ways than the expulsion are teaching and giving them some other punishment or I’d prefer to call “the correction.” We can failed them that class, add a special class for them to take which teach about the plagiarism and the report writing method, and give them more assignment to write the paper about the plagiarism. So as in Haley case, she weight between failed that class because of the incomplete assignment or take a risk to be caught, to be on probation again or else. If Haley was given the correction or understood what the probation is, I believe that she would not choose to counterfeit her work again. Maybe failed that class because of no work to send or certainly failed that class plus more class to take and plus more work, which one would you choose?
However, I don’t want to say that the expulsion is the horrible idea and should be throw away from the plagiarist. If the student is in very very bad case such as they don’t cooperate in the correction and cheating again and again without feel any guilty, then the expulsion maybe work on that case.
Discussion on Plagiarism in the High School
Person who has expelled from the high school is a student. She is only 16 years old. School has to teach to students living. The students are going to the school for learn new things and to be a successful person in their future lives. A person who is learning new things may be mistake. To make any mistake is a learn, too. Now and then students are learn by make some mistakes. Aim isn’t make some mistakes, but it is usually inevitable for learning. But, while some mistakes are meet a tolerance, some other mistakes aren’t welcome, like this.
Whatever school’s aim grows up a good persons for society and to develop personal abilities. To give any punishment to the student, it isn’t school’s aim. This is an exceptional situation. Thus, any school discipline committee have to very carefully during the punishment process. Because, this punishment will be effected future of the student. Student don’t go to the school to take a risk for own future. In the point of the school, given punishment means that Hawken School in Gates Mills have been unsuccesful for your train. Go and find a new high school for you to bring up! Any high school mustn’t do like this.
Halley Lodge was a good students till this event was. She hadn’t any discipline problem before that event. This is a situation that must be pay attention. To base on only a behavior, a person mustn’t be create or destroy. Person has a lot of features, and he-she shows a lot of different behaviors. Each person has a background. Each person has a faimly, frends, and surroundings. School isn’t everything for a person, but it is important.
A student may be make a mistake. A student may be commit a crime. But, why? Some similar samples are there about high school, universities, big campanies. Halley’s some friends from school were made similar behaviors, but they didn’t take any punishment. Halley was know this, but the school authorities didn’t know. Some negative samples were in her near environment. They didn’t take any punishment for their act. This sample might be one of the encourage factor for Haley’ plagiarist behavior. It is necessary that to be more attention when judging the student's behaviors.
This is only a comment,thank you for your interest. Huseyin